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  • #12307
    nafmeadmin
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    The auditions coordinator in my district refuses to admit that baritone in treble clef is a real instrument. Can anyone give clarity to this issue. I have many band scores that include this part and I often transfer a trumpet player tat is having difficulty on higher notes to this instrument. Please advise.

    #12312
    nafmeadmin
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    Whoa.
    Why don’t you ask for input from your All-State coordinator (assuming this isn’t the same person, of course!!). I did the same drill – started on trumpet, switched to (shhhh!) treble clef baritone and finally learned bass clef early in college. You’ve done a reasonable thing moving the kid to baritone. What would the student have done otherwise? Given up in frustration? We all have band scores that call for baritone treble clef.

    #12315
    nafmeadmin
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    In South Carolina we provide sight reading in both bass and treble clef for our euphonium players at All-State auditions. It is up to them however to get a transposed copy of the required solo.

    #12368
    nafmeadmin
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    This is a bit abnormal, but not unheard of. In GA, euphoniums/baritones may audition for district and all-state band on BC or TC baritone. You can see that the state level MEA puts out the audition in both at

    http://www.gmea.org/Divisions/Band/All%20State%20Band/Band%20Etudes/ASConcertBandEtudes.htm

    I think it’s generally accepted that if the student is serious about pursuing music on euphonium that they should learn bass cleff, but a trumpet switcher who just wants to audition for district (or even all-state) should be given the opportunity in my opinion. I’ve had several TC Euphoniums make district band.

    #12376
    nafmeadmin
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    Our festivals here in Pennsylvania have BC and TC Baritone, up to and including State Bands

    #12420
    nafmeadmin
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    Our All-County Band (Kanawha County) and the WV All-State Band both provide a separate audition piece for TC and BC. I agree that if the student is serious enough to continue music in college, they should learn BC, but why stop a student from participating because they only read TC. Doesn’t make sense to me.

    Here are last year’s audition requirements for WV All State Band. Scroll down to see the Baritone requirements.

    http://wvallstateband.com/requirements.cfm

    #12549
    nafmeadmin
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    This is one reason why district music events sometimes give me the creeps. They take all the fun out of music.

    #12702
    nafmeadmin
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    I also have a couple of students who were not succeeding on trumpet who are doing much better with euphonium. Neither are likely to be music majors and I tried, briefly, to switch them to bass clef, but they were too frustrated by that. I gave up and have let them stick with treble clef parts. They are happier and they are still in band. I think I would have lost them had I forced them to play bass clef. What is our program about, anyway? Developing future music majors, or teaching students to love and appreciate music for life. I choose the latter, and on rare occasion, I get to do the former as well. 😀

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